The (Nursery) School of Hard Knocks

by Ellie on March 11, 2010

In the early years of childhood I’m certain that most children get themselves into the odd toddler spat or seven. It’s just part of the growing up process. You soon get used to being the parent soothing a hurt child, or being the embarrassed parent apologising profusely.

However, the toddler spats I’ve become accustomed to in no way prepared me for what happened to Big E this morning.

Today was our first settling in session at the new nursery. Big E had had a great time in the pre-school room. He’d played outside on the bikes and even tentatively started making a few friends. Having not asked for me once, the staff all told me they thought he was going to be fine.

All good so far.

As I was getting both the children ready to go in the cloakroom another Mum came to collect her obviously older son. He came bounding out of the pre-school room, made a beeline for Big E who was chatting away to me minding his own business, flew at him like a dog, wrestled him to the ground, sat on top of him, and stared punching him in the face.

I ran to pick Big E up who was shouting for the boy to get off him, while the other boy’s Mum dragged her son away kicking and screaming, with him still trying to grapple his way back to Big E to hit him some more. His mum, obviously embarrassed, apologised to me while she dragged her son out of the door.

Big E was very shaken up as the attack came out of nowhere. He has a bump on the back of his head where he hit the floor, and his nose is red from being punched.

To say it spoiled an otherwise great morning is an understatement.

Whilst I’m very happy with the nursery and the lovely staff, I’m really worried about Big E spending time with the boy who randomly attacked him. I’m worried that it’ll happen again and the staff won’t tell me, or that he won’t want to go because of the other boy. One of the nursery staff was there when it happened and didn’t really say much. I guess she has to be impartial.

I’m more than a little disturbed at how vicious the other boy was. This wasn’t your average toddler fight, it was a nasty, un-provoked, shockingly vicious attack.

So now, rather than feeling more at ease after with having to put them both in nursery, I’m left feeling even more unsettled. Why are these things never simple?

Here’s hoping that his second session tomorrow is much less fraught! Fingers crossed…..

UPDATE: After speaking to the staff in the pre-school room and seeing the boy again today it is apparent that he has behavioral and learning difficulties. I didn’t ask too many questions about him as it’s not my place. He seemed to be well looked after by the staff but it’s obviously just a new situation both he and Big E will have to get used to. I suspect the new face threw him a little.

I also said hello to his Mum again as I’m sure she was feeling awkward too.

Big E was, unfortunately, a bit unsettled today. I’m hoping that he’ll get used to it all soon enough.

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1 The Mad House March 11, 2010 at 3:32 pm

That is totally unacceptable, you will remember that mini was really naughty in Preschool one day and I got brought in and so did the mum of the boy he hit. They will tell you, I think thay have too
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2 Ellie March 11, 2010 at 4:23 pm

I hope they do. My son is no angel but it’s scary to asctually see another child do that.

:(

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3 @goonerjamie March 11, 2010 at 3:38 pm

I’m fairly sure they have to tell you, but they dont have to tell you the name of the other kid, which doesn’t really help in my opinion.
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4 bev March 11, 2010 at 4:19 pm

probably because of the way some parents behave towards other parents. I don’t agree but I think that is why.
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5 Ellie March 11, 2010 at 4:25 pm

Yeah Bev, I had the same discussion with Mr H. I expect it is to avoid conflict between the respective parents. I reckon some behave wprse than their kids LOL!

x

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6 Ellie March 11, 2010 at 4:24 pm

That’s what I’d heard too.

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7 The Moiderer March 11, 2010 at 3:49 pm

That sounds really horrible. At The Mad House says I would expect the nursery to take more decisive action than that.

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8 Ellie March 11, 2010 at 4:26 pm

It was awful. You get used to them pushing each other etc over a toy they don’t want to share, but to be attacked like that was just scary!

Thankfully he seems unperturbed thus far!

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9 mrsharvey March 11, 2010 at 4:07 pm

oh gosh hun that is awful and poor Big E, I hope that the nursery do keep you informed, did the nursery staff who saw it not say anything to you?

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10 Ellie March 11, 2010 at 4:27 pm

I don’t think the staff knew what to say. The mother handled it so I guess since it was in the cloakroom and we were with our own children then they just don’t get involved.

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11 rachael March 11, 2010 at 4:09 pm

Did you speak to the staff about it?

They have to tell you if its a witnessed accident/fight whatever..

I would speak to the staff, our nursery is very good both with the victim and the offender (normally my daughter..) and they really work towards curbing any naughty behaviours.

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12 Ellie March 11, 2010 at 4:28 pm

Yeah I mentioned it to the lady who saw it but she didn’t say much. As I said to Mrs Harvey above. I reckon they left us Mum’s to deal with it.

:)

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13 bev March 11, 2010 at 4:16 pm

Poor boy! after he had such a lovely day as well! hugs x
I think that you should perhaps ask the nursary about the boy involved, has this happened before, does he have suspected behavioural problems and do they think he will do it again. I feel quite sorry for his mother as I think people do often assume it is the parents fault and there are normally a number of things going on to contribute. The fact she apologised is a good thing, she is probably mortified by the whole thing.

I do think if there was a nursary worker there she should have got involved to some degree. Hopefully this won’t happen again and big E will enjoy the rest of his nursary time. x
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14 Ellie March 11, 2010 at 4:33 pm

The boy’s poor mother was mortified so rather than wade in and demand apologies etc I just let her deal with him and comforted Big E.

I try not to blame parents for their kid’s behaviour. Big E sometimes has the biggest public tantrums even though he’s well brought up/loved. Sometimes these things come out of the blue and you can’t always ‘control your child’ as easily as you’d like, much to the annoyance of some member of the public ;) .

Fingers crossed it gets easier LOL!

I’m hoping that this incident is a one off as he has to like it there, we have no choice!

:)

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15 Very Bored in Catalunya March 11, 2010 at 6:46 pm

Blimey, that sounds horrendous and as you say not some normal toddler push around. Hopefully it was a one off and the child is normally better behaved. xx
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16 Stefanie March 11, 2010 at 8:17 pm

God, that’s shocking, how awful! Poor Big E, I hope he is ok and not too traumatised by it! It doesn’t exactly inspire you with confidence seeing that happen when they’re supposed to be settling in and the nursery didn’t react the way you’d have hoped. Hopefully it will be a one-off incident. I hope the child’s mother was suitably mortified at her son’s behaviour.

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17 amy March 11, 2010 at 9:06 pm

how horrid!! i bet you and him were so shocked! Lets hope it was a one off and that horrid boy is no where near him. I would have been livid if some brat had done that to my child, i hope things go more smoothly for you xx
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18 MrsW March 11, 2010 at 10:42 pm

I’ve been in her shoes and I’ve been in yours – they’re both horrible!

I think it’s shocking that the member of staff didn’t intervene, that really would have been ideal since it’s their place and their rules that the children are supposed to be following, and they often do differ from those of the parents. Children aren’t daft, they are perfectly able to recognise this and I’m sure the nursery have some pretty obvious and oft repeated “Golden Rules” of behaviour that the boy, already being there, would know.

Hopefully he was just saying hello with his fists, socially awkward boys are wont to do that – aren’t boys just the best?
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19 april March 12, 2010 at 12:19 am

I’d say (going through a similar thing (only similar thank god)) with my two that 1. you handles it very well,2. I would speak to the nursery staff about it, if for no other reason than your peace of mind, make his regular teachers/staff aware of what happened and who it was 3. just keep an eye on the situation and ask the teachers to do the same if and when they can. And many, many HUGS.
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